PATRIOT Richard 'Gunsmith' dna Carter^[1]

Abt 1730 - Bef 1787  (~ 57 years)

• Name	Richard 'Gunsmith' dna Carter  [2]
  	R1b-08
  Title	PATRIOT
  Born	Abt 1730	Henrico Co., Colonial Virginia
  	Census 1785 Albermarle Co., VA Living in Halifax/Pittsylvania;
  Gender	Male
  Died	Bef Jul 1787	Pittsylvania Co., Virginia   [3]
  Person ID	I13984	My Reynolds Line | Descendants of Richard 'Gunsmith' Carter, Descendants of William Walters
  Last Modified	18 Apr 2024

  
  

  DNA Tests	3 people have linked a DNA test to PATRIOT Richard 'Gunsmith' dna Carter
  	Test Type	Taken by	Haplogroup	Test Information
  	Y-DNA-	Living	R1b - 08 [R-Z273]
  	Y-DNA-	Living	R1b-08
  	Y-DNA-	Private	R1b-08

  
  

  Family	Frances Walters,   b. Abt 1736, Brunswick Co., Virginia ,   d. Aft 1803, Pittsylvania County, Virginia  (Age ~ 68 years)
  Married	NOTE: The name Ewell is passed down this line for several generations. It is even misspelled as Yewel in one case. This is further evidence of Frances Walters identity. Marriages of Pittsylvania County: Lucy Carter + Oliver Hall [Bondsman Spencer Carter] 9 Dec 1818
  Children	+ 1. George Carter,   b. Est 1704, Henrico County, Virginia ,   d. Aft 1777, Charlotte Co., Virginia  (Age ~ 74 years)   2. Richard s/o Frances Walters Carter,   b. Est 1754,   d. Yes, date unknown + 3. Mary Frances [dna] Carter,   b. Abt 1755, Halifax Co., Virginia ,   d. Bef 1820, Halifax, Virginia or Maury, Tennessee  (Age ~ 64 years) + 4. George Carter,   b. Abt 1758, Henrico, Virginia Colony ,   d. Yes, date unknown, Pittsylvania Co., Virginia + 5. Presley Carter,   b. Abt 1762, Albermarle Co., Colonial Virginia ,   d. Abt 1840, Jefferson Co., Tennessee  (Age ~ 78 years)   6. Levin Carter,   b. Abt 1771, Halifax Co., Virginia ,   d. Yes, date unknown, Pittsylvania County, Virginia   7. Travis Carter,   b. 20 Oct 1773, Halifax County, Virginia ,   d. Yes, date unknown + 8. Charles Ewell dar Carter,   b. 2 Oct 1775, Pittsylvania Co., Virginia ,   d. 3 May 1854, Grayson Co., Kentucky  (Age 78 years) + 9. Elizabeth Carter,   b. Abt 1778, Pittsylvania Co., Virginia ,   d. 12 Sep 1857, Green County, Kentucky  (Age ~ 79 years) + 10. Spencer dna Carter,   b. 11 Sep 1783, Caroline Co., Virginia ,   d. 10 Jul 1861, Pittsylvania Co., Virginia  (Age 77 years)
  Last Modified	16 Sep 2022
  Family ID	F518494803	Group Sheet  |  Family Chart

  
  

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  Documents » Slide Show		Virginia Public Claims Richard Carter (Gunsmith) Virginia Public Claims Rich Carter Pg 20-21.jpg
  		Virginia Public Claims Halifax Co., Virginia Cover Halifax Co. Virginia Public Claims.jpg Richard Carter David Powell
  		Virginia Public Claims Richard Carter G.S. Gunsmith Virginia Public Claims Epps & Carter Pg8-9 .jpg
  		Albermarle Co., Virginia Census 1785 Carters With Same Page Numbers Shows Relationships All-Carters-1785-in-Albemarle-VA.jpg
  		Chancery Record John Carter,[father of this Richard] dec'd, heirs sue for money due the estate of their dec'd. father. Richard 'Tailor' Carter, Exe. is dead and Executorship has fallen to his Widow, Mrs. Susannah (David) Powell(neeBigger). The testimony of Frederick Miller may link the Gunsmith to this Giles Carter Family.[current dna analysis however, reveals two different haplogroups.] Frederick MillerTestimonylinks-13984.jpg
  		6 Feb 1769 Halifax Co., VA Deeds Theodorick Carter buys land from Henry Kirby and Ann his wife. 100 acres on Dan River and Wynns Creek. Witnessed by Richard Carter, William Hobson, Jacob Sheppard, Micajah Sneed. Recorded 16 Mar 1769. SGHalifax-Co-Deeds-1767-1772-Carter-Pg-25.jpg
  		Carters in Pittsylvania Co. Virginia; Nealys; McClanahan; Terrys; Jefferson; Clays; Walters and others Pittsylvania Co. DB 1-2-3-CARTERS.pdf
  		Zimmerman Research on the Walters Family Descendants of William Walters Walters_Zimmerman.pdf

  
  

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  Pittsylvania Co. VA Deed Book 1 Page 241a. Aug 27, 1764 from Peter Edwards of P, to Richard Carter of P, for 20 £, a certain tract of land in P containing about 66 acres, and bounded by [blank] .Signed- , Peter Edwards. Wit -Theo Carter, Theod Carter Jr. Recorded Sep 17, 1764. Two Richard Carters are found in Antrim Parish [Halifax Co., VA] in the early records. One Richard is noted as a Gunsmith is then found with Frances as his wife until he dies [bef Jul 1787]. The second a Tailor. Richard Carter, a Tailor is proved to have married Susannah Bigger in Prince Edward Co., and later moved to Halifax Co., VA By 1774 another Richard is noted in deeds with a wife, Mary Ann. She is believed to be the Granddaughter of Susanna Carter; now proved by dna analysis NOT to be of the Giles Carter lines. In the 1785 First Census of the United States; all three Richards are shown and labeled (GS), (T), (S) plus 5 other Richard Carters with no notations. 9 Feb 1779 (PDB5/149) from George Carter of P, [Pittsylvania] to Samuel Atkinson of Cumberland Co., for 1000~, 450 acres in P on the branches of the Lower Double Cr. of Dan River, bounded by pine pointers near the old road, then to Colo Wilson, the Great Branch, Richd Carter. Signed - George Carter. Wit - Richd Carter, Robert Waltrs, John Atkinson, Mary, the wife of the sd George Carter, relinquished her right of dower to the lands within mentioned. Recorded 20 Apr 1779. [Richard Carter GS is dead in July 1778, as his inventory is returned, therefore this is Richard (Tailor)] The implication of this record is that both families of Richard the Tailor and Richard the Gunsmith Carter are acquainted, as Richard Gunsmith could not have witnessed this deed after his death. Richard Carter + Frances Walters http://reynoldspatova.org/getperson.php?personID=I17167&tree=reynolds1 Richard and Frances Carter buy 400 acres from Joseph Terry in 1767. However, the 400 acres of Wm. Walters adjacent to George next were transferred to said Joseph Terry 10 May 1764. [William Walters is Frances' Father] http://reynoldspatova.org/getperson.php?personID=I13984&tree=reynolds1 "A Deed from Richard Carter to the Vestry of Antrim Parish was by the said Richard acknowledged to be his act and deed, and the same is Ordered to be recorded 27 Nov 1767 Pittsylvania". [Pittsylvania formed in 1767] http://reynoldspatova.org/getperson.php?personID=I13984&tree=reynolds1 The 354 Acre Patent to George Carter on 20 Jul 1768 (Va. Pat. Bk 37, pp. 270,271) and is surrounded by Walters, in Halifax, on the waters of Doubles Creek. 21 Jul 1773. http://reynoldspatova.org/getperson.php?personID=I17076&tree=reynolds1 Richard and Frances Carter sold 100 acres to George Carter. Witnesses: Thomas Walters, I.N. Walters, Robert Walters. Bk 3, p.336. http://reynoldspatova.org/getperson.php?personID=I17076&tree=reynolds1 "At a court held Sept 25, 1778, Walters was appointed first lieutenant, John Hall second lieutenant and John Stamps ensign in Captain George Carter's company of County Militia" http://reynoldspatova.org/getperson.php?personID=I17076&tree=reynolds1. 29 Jan 1773 (HDB9/23) from John Whoods of H, planter, to Henry Heryford of H, for 55 ~, all that dividend of 161 acres of land in H, being part of an order of council granted to Richard Anderson and conveyed by deed to said Whood. The land is bounded by Boyd Road, the old courthouse. Signed - John (X his mark) Whood. Wit - Thos Lovelace, John Lovelace, Richard Carter (X his mark) Whood. Violet, the wife of the said John, relinquished her right of dower. Recorded 18 Feb 1773 [Richard GS Carter] 11 Dec 1772 HDB9/27 from William Tinney (Tenny) Sr. of H, to Caleb Townes of H, for 90~, all that tract of about 263 acres of land in H on Winns Cr. and bounded by John Price, John Lawson, Henry Baker Kearby. Signed - Wiliam Tenney. Wit - William Powell, William Tinney, Richard Carter, Larkin Caison (Cason), William Cason. Recorded 18 Mar, 1773. [Richard GS Carter] 19 May 1773 (HDB9/42) from Richard Carter and Mary Ann, his wife, of H, to Francis Moore Petty (Pettey) of Charlotte Co., for 60~, a certain tract of 200 acres of land in H, being a part of 400 a. said Carter bought of Daniel Easly, lying on the draughts of Pole Cat and Bad Luck Creeks, bounded by pointers in Watkins and Anderson's dividing line, said Carter. Signed - Richard Carter. Wit- Geo Carter, James Farmer, Henry Heryford, Mary Ann, the wife of the said Richard, relinquished her right of dower. Recorded 20 May 1773. 19 Jan 1774 (HDB9/324) from John Anderson of Antrim Parish and H, to Mary Wilson of same, for 25~, a certain tract of land of about 157 a., which land in H, on Badluck Cr. adjoining the lands of Mary Wilson and Thomas Lovelace, bounded by George Brown, Boyds Road, Champ Terry's order line. Signed John Anderson. Wit - Richard Carter, Maryann (X her mark) Carter, Joseph Petty. Recorded 18 Aug 1774.[Richard Carter #3 (wife Mary Ann) 25 Jan 1774 (HDB9/215) from William Payne of H, planter, to Jared (Gerard) Ellison Gross of Surry County, North Carolina, planter, for 150~, a certain tract of about 101 a. of land in H on both sides of the Double Cr. of Dan [River], bounded by the mouth of the great Branch, Byrd's order line, Wm Payne dec'd, Cawthens Branch. Signed - William (W his mark) Payne. Wit - George Carter, Henry (X his mark) Kirby, Poyndexter Payne. Recorded 17 Feb, 1774. 15 Jun 1773 (HDB9/82) from Willliam Russell of Antrim Parish, H, planter to Buckner Russell of same, for 20~, a certian tract of land of about 100 a. in H on both sides of Tobie Cr., being bounded by [trees]. Signed - William (R his mark) Russel. Wit - Geo Carter, Caleb Dodson, Jacob (X his mark) Light. Recorded 17 Jun 1773.http://reynoldspatova.org/getperson.php?personID=I17076&tree=reynolds1 17 Mar 1777 (HDB10/213) from Henry Heryford and Ann, his wife, of H, to David Farmer of H, for 40~, one certain tract of land in H., and bounded by Watling[ton], Nimrod Farguson, Boyds, road, a line agreed to by Richard Wood and said Heryford, about 160 a. Signed Henry Heryford, Ann Heryford. Wit - Richard Carter, Thomas Scurlock, Alexander (X his Mark) Hitts. Recorded 19 Jun 1777.[Richard GS Carter] http://reynoldspatova.org/getperson.php?personID=I13984&tree=reynolds1 Land: Pittsylvania Co VA/DB 3, p.322; 21 Jul 1773 Thomas WALTERS, planter, to John WALTERS, planter ..for 100#'s ..land both sides Lower Double Creek of Dann ...north side Lower Double Creek ...crossing Creek ...down the Creek ..Corner Jeremiah Videtoes ...near a branch corner of William Chandler ...200 acres. Signed: Thomas [T] Walters. Wit: George Carter, Richd Carter, Robt WALTERS. Rec. 22 Jul 1773. [Thomas to son John] Witness Richard Carter and George Carter; attributed to Richard Gunsmith Carter and his brother, George Carter. Pittsylvania Co VA DB 4/p.473 10 Feb 1778 John Watkins to Robert Walters. 125 acres on south daughts of Lower Double Crk of Dan R bounded by Robt & John Walters, a ridge near the path, John Hall, sd John Watkins, and Thomas Walters. Signed: John Watkins. Wit: Geo. Carter, John Walters, Joseph Hall. Rec. 26 Mar 1778. http://reynoldspatova.org/getperson.php?personID=I17076&tree=reynolds1 Pittsylvania Co VA DB 4/p.308 18 Feb 1777 John Madding of Pittsylvania Co & William Chandler of Halifax Co to Buckner Russell of Halifax. Tract of 200 acres on lower Double Crk of Dan R, bounded by George Carter, John Walters, a stony ridge, Thos. Walker's line, Madding's Spring Branch, Madding's old line. Signed: John Madding, William (W) Chandler. Wit: William Betty, Nathaniel Hughs, Thos. Hill, Geo. Carter. Rec. 27 Mar 1777 http://reynoldspatova.org/getperson.php?personID=I17076&tree=reynolds1 Richard Carter + Frances Walters, From the 1782 Personal Property Tax Lists for Halifax Co., VA., the following Carters were recorded: Household #284 Richard Carter 1 Tithe/15 Negroes/6 Horses/0 Mules/36 Cattle **************** http://genforum.genealogy.com/carter/messages/14616.html Halifax Virginia RICHARD CARTER Inventory & Appraisement 17 July 1787 Among items listed: roan mare, mare & colt, roan mare, sorrel mare, 1 do. Fear Naught, 1 do., blacksmiths tools, plantation tools, coopers tools, old brass, ox cart, yoak of stears, cattle, sheep, hoggs, 5 bee gums, negro fellow Isaac, do. wench Peg, do. girl do., houshold goods, mans saddle, 4 feather beds & furniture, 12 chears, 3 spinning wheels. S/L. Ragland, John Moore, Caleb Dodson, Frances Carter Returned 20 December 1787 (Total not given) http://reynoldspatova.org/getperson.php?personID=I17167&tree=reynolds1 Richard Carter's Daughter, Mary Frances, married Frederick Miller. Frederick Miller testifies in the Chancery matter of John Carter's estate when the Legatees file suit for equal division of the land and slaves. This occurs 19 years after his death; presumably when the youngest son reaches age 21. We believe Frederick Miller would not testify unless he is a family member.

  
  

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  [S80] Google Books, https://books.google.com/books?id=gQ2d8lkSvZ4C&pg=PA23&lpg=PA23&dq=Elizabeth+Jackson+%2B+Joseph+Carter+%2B+Halifax&source=bl&ots=JR9-TPQmXh&sig=-vY9aCPARbOB3XYgrdC6NvplmuY&hl=en&sa=X&ved=0ahUKEwjSuNPhzqnKAhUDeT4KHRjuDq0Q6AEITjAH#v=onepage&q=Joseph%20Carter&f=false. Heads of Families: First Census Halifax Co., VA [1782] Richard Carter (G.S.) 11 Whites-3 Blacks Richard Carter 10 Whites 1 Black Moses Terry 9 Whites 5 Blacks William Waddell 5 Whites 5 Blacks Noel Waddill 6 Whites 5 Blacks [S82] Wikitree, https://www.wikitree.com/wiki/Carter-7666. I have worked and studied this couple [Richard 'Gunsmith' Carter and Frances, his wife for many years. The books who show Frances as Frances Neale are inaccurate. She is Frances Walters, d/o William Walters and Susannah MAGBY. There has been much speculation and theories regarding this family. You will note as customary naming patterns using the grandmother's or mother's maiden name for a middle name. Magby, McBee and many other spellings identify the ancestors named Magby. These families are NOT descended from Thomas Carter. The dna results for Family Tree dna have identified descendants of several of the known children of Richard Carter and Frances Walters. They are each R1b-08. At least 4 or 5 men have tested with the exact same result. Also note on each deed record the witnesses are always Walters. William is dead, so her relatives are signators to ensure her [Frances] equity. This misidentification, likely begun with the Thomas Carter memoir is so very rampart in all quarters, and I fear will proliferate endlessly. Records concerning this family are found here. https://reynoldspatova.org/getperson.php?personID=I13984&tree=reynolds1 Mary Frances Eggleston (nee Reynolds) Note to Wiki re Richard Carter (gunsmith) [S61] United States Census, 1782 Census Halifax Co., Virginia. Two Richard Carters, One next to Daniel Carter; [Family] "The inventory of his personal estate was taken on 17 Jul 1787 by L. RAGLAND, John MOORE and Caleb DODSON". The 2nd Richard Carter is the h/o Susannah Bigger; s/o Ann Waddill; was a Tailor. [S170] Family Tree DNA, https://www.familytreedna.com/groups/carter/activity-feed. Richard Hulan By the way Carter Group R1b-08 is also in the DF27 descent tree, but I believe only one member (#22975) has had a BigY test. This would be the descent sequence for members of that branch: R-P312>ZZ11>DF27>Z195>Z274>Z209>FGC83504>Z295> Z270>Z211>Z297>Z278>BY36223 Carter Group R1b-02 has had a couple of BigY testers, and is on the same side of the DF27 tree as R1b-08 -- downstream of Z295 -- but is not, by a long shot, on the same branch. Those Carter "cousins" diverged around 4,000 years ago, clearly not in Virginia, and probably not on the large island that would become England. And the name Carter wasn't a thing, yet, even as an occupation. [S170] Family Tree DNA, https://www.familytreedna.com/groups/carter/about/results. Family Tree DNA Mary Eggleston Keith Carter I am working on Group R1b - 08 with several connections in Halifax and Pittsylvania Counties. If you can add any information I would appreciate it. The connections would be to the brothers Spencer Carter, Thompson Carter or John [Charles] Ewell Carter. Spencer Carter is definitely not of the Thomas Carter of Barford line. Contact: Tommy Carter [mtba777 AT aol.com] Y-DNA Kit # 22975 (R1b-08) Big Y test completed 0 Spencer Carter b Bet. 1776 -1777 VA d 11 Jul 1861 in Pittsylvania Co VA + Verlinda Lucas b Bet. 1787 - 1788; m 18 Dec 1804 Halifax Co VA d Apr 1850 in Pittsylvania Co VA 1 Thompson Carter b 08 Aug 1808 in Pittsylvania Co VA, d 05 May 1857 in Madison Co TN + Nancy W. Yancey b 06 Apr 1805 in Halifax Co VA; m 03 Jan 1831 in Halifax Co VA d 12 Nov 1858 in Madison Co TN 2 Thompson Carter b 08 Aug 1808 in Pittsylvania Co VA, d 05 May 1857 in Madison Co TN + Nancy W. Yancey b 06 Apr 1805 in Halifax Co VA; m 03 Jan 1831 in Halifax Co VA d 12 Nov 1858 in Madison Co TN 3 William Y. (ancey) Carter b 24 May 1837 in Halifax Co VA or Madison Co TN d 29 May 1864 in Madison Co TN + Mary Ann Lackey b 16 Jan 1838 in Madison Co TN; m 12 Mar 1859 in Madison Co TN d 14 Apr 1870 in Henry Co TN 4 William Thomas A. (lexander) Carter b Jan 1861 in Medon, Madison Co TN d 19 Aug 1936 in Jackson, Madison Co TN + Mary Alexander Spencer b 24 Mar 1857 in Probably McNairy Co TN; m 24 Jan 1884 in Jackson, Madison Co TN d 25 Mar 1948 in Jackson, Madison Co TN 5 Lee Mitchell Carter Sr. b 17 Oct 1886 in Jackson, Madison Co TN, d 18 Jun 1966 in Greenville, Washington Co MS + Bertha Eliza Turner b 31 Aug 1893 in Belzoni, Washington Co MS; m 07 Sep 1921 in Belzoni, Humphreys Co MS d 18 Jan 1981 in Belzoni, Humphreys Co MS 6 Lee Mitchell Carter Jr. b 05 Oct 1922 in Belzoni, Humphreys Co MS d 07 Jun 1998 in At Home, Sulphur Springs Community, Jefferson Co AR + Billie Roxine Tomlinson - Private 7 William Tomlinson Carter b Pine Bluff, Jefferson Co AR Like Richard Hulan likes this Richard Hulan 1 Recent New Member Contact: Frank Carter [fgcarter1 AT gmail.com] yDNA Kit # 194790 Group R1b - 08 0 Spencer Carter b 13 Mar 1776 VA d 10 Jul 1861 Pittsylvania Co VA + Verlinda Virginia Lucas b 1781; m 18 Dec 1804 Halifax Co VA 1 Alexander Carter b 1819 VA d 1858 NC + Martha Ann Lyon b 10 May 1820 Pittsylvania Co VA; m 30 May 1840 Pittsylvania Co VA d 13 Feb 1885 Rockingham Co NC 2 William Spencer Carter b 31 May 1841 Pittsylvania Co VA d 14 Jun 1896 Rockingham Co NC + Cornelia Lea Guerrant b 16 Feb 1845 Ruffin, Rockingham Co NC; m 05 Sep 1863 Rockingham Co NC d 10 Mar 1926 Ruffin, Rockingham Co NC 3 James Horace Carter b 14 Apr 1867 Oregonville, Rockingham Co NC d 20 Apr 1941 Ruffin, Rockingham Co NC + Bessie Borum b 10 Apr 1880 Keysville, VA; m 25 Oct 1905 Rockingham Co d 1967 Ruffin, Rockingham Co NC 4 Frank Guerrant Carter b 13 Dec 1914 Ruffin, Rockingham Co NC d 15 Mar 1999 Wilmington, New Hanover Co NC + Dura B. Shelton ? Private 5 Frank G. Carter - Private