PATRIOT Baynes Carter

Notes:

http://services.dar.org/public/dar_research/search_descendants/?action=list&MyPrimary_Seqn=613973&MyLineageCount=1&Control_Min_Seqn=613973

CARTER, BAYNES
[Full Ancestor Record]
Ancestor #: A205523
Service:
VIRGINIA Rank: PATRIOTIC SERVICE
Birth:
(CIRCA) 1749
Death:
(ANTE) 11 Aug 1788 HENRY CO VIRGINIA
Service Source:
VA MAG OF HIST & BIOG VOL 9 NO 1 PP 11, 18; VOL 7 NO 3 P 255
Service Description:
1) TOOK OATH OF ALLEGIANCE, HENRY CO, VA; FURNISHED SUPPLIES

Nat.# 712681 951 JESSE [1] ELIZABETH PHILPOTT

Pittsylvania County, Virginia 1774 AC1, p.20 John HAIL'S Inventory
Inventory of Estate of John HAILE, decd. 8 Mar 1773 by Mordica HORD, Henry BARKSDALE, James SPENCER. [Items Total 39.16.9
Account of sales of above estate sold - sundries to: James Sturgin, John Rowland, Richard Copland, Mordica Hord, David Chadwell, James Blevins, Lewis Grisham, BAINES CARTER, Robert CAVE. Total 38.7.3

Beginning in the early 1770's, there was a migration of families from the Goochland County and surrounding area to southwest Virginia. Descendants of these families (Carter, Atkins(on), Dillon, Callaway, Tatum, Anthony, Bowman, Stoval, and others) can still be found in the beautiful and remote hills of Patrick and Henry Counties today. Baynes Carter and his brothers Josiah and John, third generation Carters, were among the early settlers who made their way south and west for better opportunities and more productive land.

A 1773 Goochland County deed shows Baynes Carter and his widowed mother Mary, now of Pittsylvania County, selling their home place to Samuel Coleman Morris. Beginning a year or so prior to the sale of the Goochland County home place, Baynes, Josiah and John had begun to leave records in Pittsylvania, Bedford and Henry Counties.

In August of 1774, records show that Baynes Carter, about age 18 or 19, received pay for 82 days service under Captain Abraham Penn in the conflict between the Colony of Virginia and the Native Americans of the Ohio Valley. This conflict, Dunmore's War, was named for the Royal Governor of Virginia, Lord Dunmore, who organized a large militia to ultimately prevent the Delaware, Mingo, and Shawnee from settling or hunting south of the Ohio River. John Carter, an elder brother of Baynes, served in this conflict as well.

Just three years later, Baynes Carter (age 22) and his brother Josiah, along with other citizens of Henry County, Virginia, were called upon to renounce their allegiance to Great Britain and swear their allegiance to the Commonwealth of Virginia. Their signatures appear on the on 30 August 1777 list of Edmond Lyne, Esquire. This demonstrates that both men supported the impending Revolution and qualifies their descendants for membership in the Sons and Daughters of the American Revolution. Josiah is also recorded in the Virginia Publick Claims for Henry County as being reimbursed for provisions supporting the war:

Few records have surfaced on Baynes Carter but we know that he purchased ?sundries? at the estate sale of John Hail in Pittsylvania County (Inventory recorded 26 September 1774). He also served as a guard for his county in 1777: 'Henry County Levy is made to Baines [sic] Carter, guarding, same 5 days.' On 21 July 1778, Henry County deeds show Josiah Carter conveying and selling to his brother Baynes 89 acres of land crossing Little Reedy Creek and Reed Creek to the mouth of said creek on Smith River. Over the next few years, several other Henry County land transactions are recorded concerning Baynes Carter. In 1780, Josiah Carter transferred some of his Reedy Creek property to his brother Baynes due to damages sustained by Baynes resulting from a grist mill operation. [This land is located near the present-day intersection of Route 220 and State Route 57 between Bassett and Collinsville, Virginia. [Josiah Carter's grist mill was still standing there as of 1920.] About the time Josiah Carter transferred the Reedy Creek property to his brother Baynes, Josiah, along with a contingent of other Henry County, Virginia, families, migrated farther south to the state of Georgia.

It's not until a land transaction on 24 June 1784 that we learn Baynes Carter has a wife: Baynes Carter and his wife Martha sell 221 acres of land on Reed Creek to George Hairston. To date no marriage record or bond has been found and Martha's surname remains unknown, but other records conclude that Baynes and Martha had been married at least 10 years by this time. In 1788, just a few years after the sale of the 221 acres of land, Baynes Carter passed away, leaving a widow and a son Jesse, age 13.

Name:
Q3 Haplogroup

Baynes married Martha Mrs. Baynes Carter. Martha was born Abt 1755, Goochland, Virginia Colony; died Yes, date unknown. [Group Sheet]

1. Jesse Carter was born 26 Sep 1775, Henry County, Virginia; died 26 Nov 1855, Goblintown Creek Patrick Co., VA.
2. Baynes to Georgia Carter, Jr. was born 1779; died Yes, date unknown, Georgia.

Notes:

Have discovered Thomas in the DAR Patriot Index, b. 19 June
1753, d. 9 Feb 1825. Marriage Record in Early Virginia
Marriages by Southern Book Co., 1953, lists marriage as 21
Nov 1771. A Family Bible of Thomas' son, John W. Carter,
gives Thomas' parents as Thomas Carter and Mary Kilpatrick.
Their marriage is in the Douglas Register, page 14,
indicating that the marriage was recorded on pages 21-26 of
the Parish Register of Goochland begun ANNO 1756 by William
Douglas, Minister.

Thomas Carter Jr. was named as 'second son' in his father's will, received a yearling calf, and probably lived on his father's land until about 1730. In Sept. 1730, he received a land grant on Licking Hole and Bolings Creeks, described as 'on branches of said river, falling into the Rock Castle
lowgrounds'. This land was located north of the James River, but was directly across from the Carter properties on Muddy Creek. In 1736 Thomas Jr. was granted land along Turkey Cocke Creek in what became Cumberland Co. He willed this land to his eldest son, Thomas. The will was made in Goochland Co. in February 1760, and filed there in April 1763. Nothing is known of his first marriage(s)-but he had married a Mary Killipatrick in 1751. His will also noted then wife, Mary, and sons; John, Josiah, Baynes, and 'my three younger daughters'; Mary Dawson, Judith and Susanna Carter. Josiah Carter inherited a 150 acre tract, part of the land north of the James River; his brother John received an adjacent 125 acres of the same 'Ballows land'

Both Thomas Sr. and Jr. are shown on the 1787 Census for Pittsylvania Co., VA


http://nyvagenealogy.homestead.com/virginia1750.html
1751 Thomas Carter Mary Kilpatrick Goochland Douglas

Thomas married Mary Carrell/Carroll 24 Jan 1756, St. James, Goochland Co., Virginia. Mary was born Abt 1737, Goochland, Virginia Colony; died 1806, Goochland County, Virginia . [Group Sheet]

Notes:

Another Thomas Carter married Mary Kilipatrick.

Name:
http://wc.rootsweb.ancestry.com/cgi-bin/igm.cgi?op=GET&db=tcarter1738&id=I854
Mary Carroll, d/o Roger

Notes:

[Proved to be another Thomas Carter 1753-1825 R1b]
Note from Mike Terry Administrator of FTDNA Carter
"Mike Terry

Tue, Apr 23, 2019

to Dick
Out of intellectual curiosity I ordered the DAR record for the descendant of Thomas Carter b 1753 of Lancaster Co Virginia.
I also have Fold3 and reviewed his RW pension papers which were submitted to court in 1818 in Lancaster County, Virginia. Citation: Thomas Carter S.40038 Certificate of Pension. According to the DAR application, Thomas Carter 1753 is shown to have died in 1825 in Hanover County, Virginia and there is a Thomas Carter in the 1810 and 1820 census in Hanover County.
The DAR application shows Thomas Carter wife as Caty per the Bible record and the registrar crossed this out and entered Elizabeth Dogget. This application was dated 1975 so it is fairly recent. There are no reservations or red lines on the application. DAR prohibits sharing the application;
however, I can discuss what it says and does not say from an academic perspective.
I am not sure how many DAR applications there are on sons of Thomas Carter = Katherine Dale. I think Peter Carter is listed in their DAR lines... I think it may be red lined because of the questions about the wife.
Whether the wife is Caty _____ or Elizabeth Dogget is of no import as far as the yDNA patrilineal line is concerned. The yDNA is showing a definite genetic connection to the Thomas Carter = Katherine Dale male Carter's and at least three of them have 500 STR markers and one has 700 STR markers.
I think it would be appropriate to list Thomas Carter b 1753 as a separate line in your database and note this line is a very strong ydna 111 marker match to the Thomas Carter = Katherine Dale line. They share a common ancestor prior to 1753 obviously.
I checked the DAR website and there is an application for Thomas Carter 1753-1825 patriot and some of the same family members listed in the same family line as the noted in the Carter DNA project in question at least for the males in the line. The wife is not the same though as listed in the Bible record I sent. You can order the file but they won't send any vital records with the application unless the person has been deceased for 100 years. They state they did not keep records until after 1984. I think you should be able verify most of it though for the later generations in Upshur County WV. The people are listed on the synopsis which is public. So I am guessing they are deceased.
Mike Terry
Mon, Apr 22, 2019
to me
Kilpatrick not listed not Kincade... In the Bible record
http://services.dar.org/Public/DAR_Research/search_descendants/?action=list&MyPrimary_Seqn=484789&MyLineageCount=1

Charles Carter [charlescarter103 AT gmail.com] Geno 2.0 transfer Kit # B8566 includes Family Finder shows as confirmed terminal SNP Q-F1161 Group Q-01 NOT HIS LINE

Name:
Q-01 Q-M242; 365635 Carter; Capt. Thomas Carter, Sr, Lancaster, VA 1672

Thomas married Susanna Merry. Susanna (daughter of William Merry and Jane, Mrs. William Merry) was born Est 1675; died b 1726, Goochland Co., Virginia. [Group Sheet]

William married Jane, Mrs. William Merry. Jane, was born Est 1640, Virginia Colony; died Yes, date unknown. [Group Sheet]